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Ring to Roebuck

24/6/2017

 
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This old photo from 1872 shows a small group of cottages, known to have been somewhere in Stalbridge. But no one could find them, and therefore assumed they had been demolished at some point. The only clue to their existence was hand-bleached onto the photo, and read "Roebuck Cottages, Stalbridge 1872".
A local Stalbridge resident, researching old photos of houses in the town happened to be looking online at the old Ordinance Survey maps of the National Library of Scotland and stumbled upon the whereabouts of these buildings. The map shown below is from 1886, and clearly shows Roebuck Cottages, set back from the road at the top of Barrow Hill.

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Sadly, the cottages no longer exist, but when were they demolished and why?
Further research led to another OS map of Stalbridge, this time from 1900. As you can see from the photo below, Roebuck Cottages has disappeared from the map. Evidently some time between 1886 and 1900 the cottages were torn down. 
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The land on which Roebuck Cottages stood seems to be part of Inwood Estate, currently owned by the de Pelet family. However, the estate was in different hands, back in the late 19th century.
The Inwood estate was probably carved out of ancient woodlands belonging to Henstridge Manor and Yenston priory. It contained a Hunting Lodge, not the large Victorian House that exists today. In the period this story is interested in (1872 to 1900) Inwood was owned by two different people. In 1876, 4 years after our photo was taken,  the then owner, John James Glossop  sold the land to Thomas Merthyr Guest. In the 1881 census, Thomas Guest and his wife Theodora, who later built the Templecombe Cottage Hospital, were not living at Inwood, but in another Manor House in Henstridge. The new house at Inwood seems to have been completed in that year, but after the census had been taken. So did Thomas Guest "acquire" the cottages on his boundary and have them raised to the ground? Did he even own that piece of land when the cottages were demolished? Perhaps we will never know. As you can see from the photo below, the old garden walls of Roebuck, which bulged out into the lane are now incorporated into the estate. Inwood was inherited by the Count de Pelet in 1993.
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There is another possible reason for the demise of Roebuck Cottages...
In a chance conversation with local Stalbridge author Hilary Townsend it was established that there used to be a local dance/procession in Victorian times called "The RIng to Roebuck", which seemed to involve revellers starting at The Ring in Stalbridge and dancing up to Roebuck Cottages, stopping off at cider houses along the way. It is therefore possible that at least one of the cottages was a local drinking establishment. In the late 19th Century the Temperance movement in England was thriving, and had become very active in this area. Landowners who supported this movement in its various guises, including the Salvation Army, were in the habit of shutting down pubs, ale and cider houses on their land. It is therefore conceivable that Roebuck Cottages were demolished under these circumstances, possibly by Thomas Guest, who may have been a supporter of temperance, or by another landowner for different reasons.

So why are we telling you all this?  Well, the Stalbridge History Society have produced and online archive containing old photos of Stalbridge. They are 'captioned' with basic information, but the society would very much welcome further, interesting information on the collection to update the archive. Roebuck Cottages is an example. So why not visit the Stalbridge History Society Collection of Old photos of Stalbridge, view the fascinating collection of 12 galleries and who knows? Maybe you can help with another mystery? Look for photo S43 in the "street scenes" gallery, for a start!
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jude watts
27/6/2017 12:14:12 pm

I think that you have placed roebuck cottages the wrong side of the road out of Stalbridge. If you look carefully at the photo you can see park wall behind to the right. I always though that they were at the top of what is known as Pussy Cat Lane, which is the footpath leading to Harpitts wood, on the opposite (left hand side of road leaving Stalbridge)
Also I do not think that the Stalbridge estate was part of Inwood at that time, but owned by Lord Anglesey until the 1850s and then the Marquess of Westminster. .

John Fieldhouse
27/6/2017 01:46:25 pm

Hi Jude,
Thanks for the info on Roebuck Cottages. I'll look into the owners of the park and see if I can find anything on them and possibly do an update.
Re the site of Roebuck Cottages...I'm not sure why you think the cottages are on the (left) side of the road going out of Stalbridge. I agree that the park wall is shown behind the cottages, but that would make the cottages on the right side of the road. The OS map from 1886 shows them being almost opposite to the entrance to Pussycat Lane, and Google satellite shows the same shape of outline to the 1886 map.
I'm no expert in this, so would love to hear your thoughts on this...
I have put a montage of the map/photos at the bottom of this original post.
Bye for now,
Kind regards,
John

Jacqui Wragg
28/10/2018 11:53:40 am

The survey & listing that corresponds with the 1781/2 Perks map & 1839 Tithe map reveals that Joshua Tulk held a lease in 1779 on "A tenement near the Park Gate" and Robert & George Ash in 1839 paid tithes on a "Cottage in Three Tenements and Garden on Barrow Hill". Robert Snr, a plasterer, and sons Robert Jnr and George are living here in 1841. The family, whose surname changes to Aish, continues to live in 2 of the 3 until the 1880's and very likely to be those in the photo. If you look closely you will see 3 door canopies.
In 1811 William Castleman records in a ledger that John Ash, a dairyman, and his sister hold a lease dated 1st Nov 1790 for "A messuaqe near the park Wall in Stalbridge with garden".
The ledger records several changes to the lease mentioning other members of this family. Interestingly, the family connection between John Ash (1757-1836) and Robert Ash (1770-1842) is not direct. Possibly uncle & nephew. However, what is certain is that Robert, his daughter, Harriett, and his sons, George and Robert and their families live there from 1838.


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